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I seem to remember the pitchforks and torches in marking up the lakeside chips by a dollar or two because people "Knew" what i had paid at the auction. How was that different? And the quantity was much different.

Lets just say that there was 100K chips made (tigers), Ill give $3 cost as a generous estimate (shipped), crating and shipping isn't $1 a chip on 100K, say they sold at $600 a rack (which they did not), that's $300,000 profit on 100 - 150 sets. Not bad! Yes torch the guy that wanted a couple hundred above having had to clean sift sort and sell? and praise another for the exact same thing. Doesn't make sense to me, but, I don't know the friendly salesman so I guess that's worth 300K.

God bless the tiger, when you cant buy diapers but own tigers, well, that's a problem. Crack dealers do the same thing to their "customers".
 
This is all sounds like very healthy, normal dialogue :ROFLMAO:

Also, why ask questions if you don't believe the answers. Pretty sure Ken and Jeep have explicitly and directly answered where the V2 chips came from, when they were ordered, etc.

At the end of the day, thank goodness someone is finally going to get answers directly from Angel. It's about time! The community desperately needs information from casino folks and manufacturers, risks to changes in the future be damned! We should all be focused on....gaining perspective from suppliers that....we'll never directly use or be impacted by. This all makes perfect sense.
 
NotoriousBJ3 said:
This is all sounds like very healthy, normal dialogue :ROFLMAO:

Also, why ask questions if you don't believe the answers. Pretty sure Ken and Jeep have explicitly and directly answered where the V2 chips came from, when they were ordered, etc.

At the end of the day, thank goodness someone is finally going to get answers directly from Angel. It's about time! The community desperately needs information from casino folks and manufacturers, risks to changes in the future be damned! We should all be focused on....gaining perspective from suppliers that....we'll never directly use or be impacted by. This all makes perfect sense.
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Barrie, I’m not doubting John. But your question about not believing the answer to questions doesn’t get much more naive. You’ve surely been alive long enough to realize humans aren’t truthful a lot of the time. Hell, if it was up to the do-gooders that wanted to tar and feather and beat the living crap out of anyone questioning situations like Poppin, everyone would still be waiting for the shipments Poppin promised so many times.
 
DMack said:
Barrie, I’m not doubting John. But your question about not believing the answer to questions doesn’t get much more naive. You’ve surely been alive long enough to realize humans aren’t truthful a lot of the time. Hell, if it was up to the do-gooders that wanted to tar and feather and beat the living crap out of anyone questioning situations like Poppin, everyone would still be waiting for the shipments Poppin promised so many times.
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Lol guys you’ll be so much happier if you let go of things.

I guess label me naïve then. A guy got chips that no one else could and sold them to people at a price they’re willing to pay. And if John says something, I listen. Call it naïve, but there’s a group of people whose words I trust - and this will shock you - I think they trust me. This thread is….something.

I guess I can honestly answer this thread because I was in this situation.

We had an ex floor boss in the Midwest who opened all the local casinos for an ownership group. Could get orders in with the snap of a finger, and had 10+ full Paulson samples in his closet at home. Not only that, he was willing to front the $ for the full purchase (no clue why) and just wanted chippers help with designs and order numbers since he had no clue what he was doing. The people involved at this early stage was just him, myself, and one chipper (a vendor on PCF).

We were excited as it looked like we had a semi legit “in” and would be able to avoid most coon pitfalls. In conversation and planning, we landed on attempting to get a small order through first - selling only privately to people, at whatever amount above cost would cover all of our personal sets. Anyone that publicly shared the chips or resold them would be removed from future available sets.

So our actual planned goal was to keep everything private and only provide brand new Paulson direct chips to known people we like and trust - specifically because of how adults act about clay disks. There’s not a damn thing Ken or Jeep could’ve done to assuage the masses. Labeling their actions similar to crack dealers is again.....something.

I might be naïve, but for anyone who is an involved long term chipper to question “why” John would labor over chip design is either being disingenuous, has their own personal motivation/prerogative, or is simply oblivious.

Can someone point me to a super active thread where people are posting on an interesting topic that is positive?
 
The Chip Spa said:
How was that different?
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Exactly. And I know it was public for those but if it wasn’t you had no “duty” to tell everyone what you paid for them, show the receipts for gas in your vehicle to pick them up, etc.

Any hate your direction for marking up is unfounded and seemingly stems from entitlement imo.
 
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JeepologyOffroad said:
Exactly. And I know it was public for those but if it wasn’t you had no “duty” to tell everyone what you paid for them, show the receipts for gas in your vehicle to pick them up, etc.

Any hate your direction for marking up is unfounded and seemingly stems from entitlement imo.
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I wish I could turn back time to remember exactly. The details escape me, but I will say it felt pretty obnoxious at the time.
It’s entirely possible that it was because Dan was new to the community at the time. Because for some strange reason, that community seems particularly sensitive to new people coming in a profiting.
 
upNdown said:
I wish I could turn back time to remember exactly. The details escape me, but I will say it felt pretty obnoxious at the time.
It’s entirely possible that it was because Dan was new to the community at the time. Because for some strange reason, that community seems particularly sensitive to new people coming in a profiting.
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All I remember is seeing pics of those glorious cash chips and praying Danny got them all to sell to us
 
NotoriousBJ3 said:
I guess I can honestly answer this thread because I was in this situation.

We had an ex floor boss in the Midwest who opened all the local casinos for an ownership group. Could get orders in with the snap of a finger
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NotoriousBJ3 said:
Lol guys you’ll be so much happier if you let go of things.

I guess label me naïve then. A guy got chips that no one else could and sold them to people at a price they’re willing to pay. And if John says something, I listen. Call it naïve, but there’s a group of people whose words I trust - and this will shock you - I think they trust me. This thread is….something.

I guess I can honestly answer this thread because I was in this situation.

We had an ex floor boss in the Midwest who opened all the local casinos for an ownership group. Could get orders in with the snap of a finger, and had 10+ full Paulson samples in his closet at home. Not only that, he was willing to front the $ for the full purchase (no clue why) and just wanted chippers help with designs and order numbers since he had no clue what he was doing. The people involved at this early stage was just him, myself, and one chipper (a vendor on PCF).

We were excited as it looked like we had a semi legit “in” and would be able to avoid most coon pitfalls. In conversation and planning, we landed on attempting to get a small order through first - selling only privately to people, at whatever amount above cost would cover all of our personal sets. Anyone that publicly shared the chips or resold them would be removed from future available sets.

So our actual planned goal was to keep everything private and only provide brand new Paulson direct chips to known people we like and trust - specifically because of how adults act about clay disks. There’s not a damn thing Ken or Jeep could’ve done to assuage the masses. Labeling their actions similar to crack dealers is again.....something.

I might be naïve, but for anyone who is an involved long term chipper to question “why” John would labor over chip design is either being disingenuous, has their own personal motivation/prerogative, or is simply oblivious.

Can someone point me to a super active thread where people are posting on an interesting topic that is positive?
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My comment about skepticism was by no means directed at John. You knew that. But I guess you had to pretend it was so you could go on with another one of your speeches.

To use a lot of your words and sayings: Let’s say there’s a user named, “NotoriousBJs.” (Likeness is purely coincidental). Old Notorious has been around a while, has some very good friends that are GREAT guys and some legendary chippers. Old Notorious sticks around a bit, ruffles some feathers, but doesn’t seem terrible. Then, Notorious sells a bunch of chips to several people and ghosts for quite some time. Panic ensues because everyone thinks they’ve been taken, but quite some time down the road, Notorious finally makes due.

Fast forward several months, Notorious is back in good graces, but we end up with another story just like above. To see the conclusion, see above.

Fast forward again, and then another similar situation plays.

So, I’ll gladly let you call me a skeptic because I don’t have full trust of those in our “community.”

I can see why you might not been so keen in bringing up the past. For you to deny it, you might be disingenuous, have some personal motivations, or you might be oblivious.
 
No clue what your post is going on and on and on about.

You can’t pick both ways. You believe John, but it’s naive to believe what we’re told….by John? Lmao, you guys didn’t like the circle jerk comments because “rude”, so instead I go with extreme cognitive dissonance.

Somehow you can sit by and watch people you like question the validity of Johns answers - with 0 response to them - yet call me out? At this point it’s either dissonance or purposefully being obtuse and borderline moronic.

And yes, as you like to point out as often as possible, people had to wait for chips from me. Twice! (Was it 3 times? Idk maybe it was).

I’ve bought and sold hundreds of thousands of chips in less than 5 years. 3 times people waited while life took precedence. Noones ever not received, Noones ever been shortchanged, Noones ever been left holding a stick. I’ve brought at least 4 large finds to forum public or privately with no personal gain. I have one of the largest custom sample collections worked on over years and host an annual meetup that has joined the other top meetups. And so on and so on and so on. I don’t really care about my past, no, but if you want to cover it - make sure you cover it all. Again, my actions match my words. I don’t care much about chips, I’m not a “chipper”. But I enjoy poker and I enjoy our community.

I’m 100% fine with talking about the past. I’m cool with mine, my actions follow my words. Y’all…..not so much. And there’s receipts for days to prove it. Hell there's 100 different comments here from your buddies just in the last however long filled with double speak and them countering their own previous comments over and over.
 
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But just so you can see how difficult it is conversing with you people.
NotoriousBJ3 said:
Also, why ask questions if you don't believe the answers. Pretty sure Ken and Jeep have explicitly and directly answered where the V2 chips came from, when they were ordered, etc.
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DMack said:
Barrie, I’m not doubting John. But your question about not believing the answer to questions doesn’t get much more naive. You’ve surely been alive long enough to realize humans aren’t truthful a lot of the time.
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NotoriousBJ3 said:
I guess label me naïve then. A guy got chips that no one else could and sold them to people at a price they’re willing to pay. And if John says something, I listen.
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DMack said:
My comment about skepticism was by no means directed at John. You knew that.
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Like, I know you can read, and I don't think you moronic or dumb. But...where is the comprehension?

I literally say why do we ask questions if we don't believe the answers. We know where V2 Tigers came from based on Ken and Johns answers.

You respond, you're not doubting John but that my comment on why would we not believe them is naive.

And when I respond label me naive, you claim that I should magically know you aren't directing comments at John - but apparently.....society as a whole? Some random group of chippers not covered in the previous posts? I still don't know who the fuck you're talking about since every comment was.....John and Ken.

It literally doesn't make sense. We're talking about a specific situation, hell even a specific question, and specifically John and Ken's answers. How in world can you say that you are both not doubting them, and in the same line then say my belief in their answers is naive.

Maybe you're right and I'm somehow misreading every single post above. Or maybe I'm right and you couldn't care less about comprehension or the truth beyond your personal interpretation.
 
Admodeus said:
No one brought that up but me, and no I didn't like it so stop bringing it the fuck up.
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There were varied comments on it, yours was most direct. I believe you called it “rude” if I’m not mistaken. Which again, cognitive dissonance to the umpteenth degree as I don’t believe I’ve seen you call that out anywhere else? Including your own posts such as this one above. (Y’all really don’t like abiding to this “be real” thing. Is it actually just a joke?)

I don’t think that your “likes” dictate what I post. Given the assumed vulgarity I’ve moved on from using it, but it’s popular connotation isn’t actually vulgar (go ahead, use the most popular search platform for its definition and you’ll find the vulgar definition comes second).

The cherry on top is that I wasn’t using the term again, yet you chose to interject yourself and this comment for…what?

I don’t know how you can be wrong in so many ways at once, congrats!
 
I take @JeepologyOffroad at his word.

To me and some others Ken is slimy so there's that, his "hero" status and other NAGB bringers, 10's or 100's of thousands of chips, is negated by the methods employed and the profits fleeced from the "Community" on $2 clay discs. but that's the price for laziness on the buyers part, if they want to pay that kind of premium for not scamming Angel that's their prerogative. If someone comes to market with 1000's of Paulson Chips at $4 or $5 and floods the market with them I can only imagine the ire it will spark for "devaluing" there coveted NAGB chips.

In true chipper hero fashion, it would be funny to see a sale........

"Beautiful Paulson THC chips $4 each. No limit. Please note, if you own or have sold any NAGB chips from any previous sales you are excluded from this sale."
 
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