Tigers

[Admodeus]

I disagree. When it comes to hobbies, if someone hooks me up with something to complete or further a project I’m working on for a good deal (below max value) and I turn around and sell it for 2x a couple months later, that makes me a d-bag.

If I’m trying to unload my old lawnmower and sell it for $50 and the guy fixes it up and sells it for $100, more power to him.

The first scenario is being an ass-hat b/c I damn well know I got hooked up by someone playing the hobby forward. In return I gave them a big fat FU for hooking me up. (The seller damn well knows they could’ve sold it for more, they CHOSE not to…)

The second scenario the buyer and I both damn well know my garbage won’t pick up the mower and he’s doing me a favor taking it for $50.

I think you might have misunderstood what I was trying to say. As a seller if I sell something for a set price and someone buys it, I am getting what I want for it, so what they do with it after the fact (sell it for more, throw it away etc.) doesn't matter to me.

Now as you stated, if I hooked you up and you turned around and sold them for more or trade for something better whatever, then yes, you gain the title of ass-clown

BTW, your broken-down harbor freight lawnmower is a bad example.... just small j/k.

 

[Jimmy Pancakes]

I think you might have misunderstood what I was trying to say. As a seller if I sell something for a set price and someone buys it, I am getting what I want for it, so what they do with it after the fact (sell it for more, throw it away etc.) doesn't matter to me.

Now as you stated, if I hooked you up and you turned around and sold them for more or trade for something better whatever, then yes, you gain the title of ass-clown

BTW, your broken-down harbor freight lawnmower is a bad example.... just small j/k.

Yes, I edited my post as I didn’t read your post completely. After I re-read it, I realized what you were saying - and I agree.

Soooo, I reaaaaly didn’t disagree - lol. (Even though I did, but really didn’t - kinda )

 

[KingZilla]

IMO Tiger chips are ok. The inlay design is nice but it doesn't SAY anything. I guess "casino" or "card room" is to be inferred. These are apples and oranges, I guess, but look at the sets posted by DuckPlug in post #12. They SAY something. What everyone was after was what the design was ON: Paulson THC CHIPS. I saw a couple of other runs on Paulson THC produced after Paulson quit public selling. There is one design that looks like a "clown house". I guess for some, it's attractive. They look like a joke to me personally. That's why I put up this thread to make a statement on this whole topic:

New NAGB possibility for SELECT members ONLY!

Gauging interest for possible NEW THC PAULSON chips! ONLY $8 PER CHIP!

www.pokerchipper.com

Interestingly, that thread didn't get the response I had anticipated. I thought it was a hilarious satire on the state of this topic. Look at the inlay design, the price and the fact that it was for SELECT members ONLY. I think people took me seriously. I can't blame them because we're talking about PAULSON THC. That's serious because most mortals can't get Paulson THC chips unless they come from a casino. There are SO many RHC chips available now but I don't like (and never have liked) the RHC mold. All this is MY opinion. YMMV.

 

[upNdown]

I'm tiger blind. There are like 8 different sets of shiny glow in the dark chips and they all look the same to me. So I have no appreciation for them. Literally none. I was initially impressed, but the inundation has killed it for me. When people post their Tigers, all I see is BRIGHT and overpaid. Good for you if you enjoy them. Good for me that I didn't catch that expensive fever.

 

[DMack]

I'm tiger blind. There are like 8 different sets of shiny glow in the dark ships and they all look the same to me. So I have no appreciation for them. Literally none. I was initially impressed, but the inundation has killed it for me. When people post their Tigers, all I see is BRIGHT and overpaid. Good for you if you enjoy them. Good for me that I didn't catch that expensive fever.

Overpaid is right. I am truly ashamed of myself for paying what I did. I do think they’re all unbelievably gorgeous, though. I’m definitely envious of you for not catching the fever.

 

[upNdown]

And when I see comments like this:
"Congrats on elusive alt $500s!"
All I can think is "what a bunch of nerds."
So, good for the CEOs - they've created a brand, a product line, a hobby within a hobby, whatever. To me they're just bright shiny status chips that all look the same and mostly cost more than chips I'd rather have.

 

[STuDioSuRFiNG]

Overpaid is right. I am truly ashamed of myself for paying what I did. I do think they’re all unbelievably gorgeous, though. I’m definitely envious of you for not catching the fever.

I totally expect them to be $5-6 in a while too like these yellow RPC that were I think $9-10 back at first drop if not more before they ever hit public sales

SOLD - Tiger Palace Secondary Racks + RPC

Chips to be shipped via USPS. All tigers need to be claimed before I split them up All near mint/Mint Secondary Tiger .25 - $850/rack - 100x .50 - $800/rack- 100x 1 - $1100/rack - 200x 5 - $800/rack - 300x 25 - $1400/rack - 100x 100/500/1000 - $750 (not splitting) - 100x Or take the whole set...

www.pokerchipforum.com

 

[DuckPlug]

To me they're just bright shiny status chips that all look the same and mostly cost more than chips I'd rather have.

I don’t see them as “status” chips at all. I see them mostly as the latest sweeping trend for people who don’t really know what they want but let themselves get hung up in the hype.

 

[doublebooyah85]

Love me some Tiger claws. I think they are as spectacular as the ESPT and AST NAGB’s.

 

[doublebooyah85]

I don’t see them as “status” chips at all. I see them mostly as the latest sweeping trend for people who don’t really know what they want but let themselves get hung up in the hype.

Def trendy. Def hype. Someone bought chips direct from Paulson. All nagb will be hyped. As someone mentioned, clown chips get hyped LOL

But I know what I Iike/want lol. Total misconception to assume people don’t know what they want when they buy tigers.

And to say chipping has a status is nerd talk in itself lol @upNdown

 

[DuckPlug]

But I know what I Iike/want lol. Total misconception to assume people don’t know what they want when they buy tigers.

Should have worded my thought differently there for sure Booyah.
Enjoy those Tiger’s, For Now.

 

[Carnth]

CEO didn't say what he paid, or how much was produced.

Is this dishonest? No.

Does he rip people off?
People know what chips cost. CEO knows that he has a unique product not available anywhere else. A monopoly. He took advantage of the monopoly. He priced them accordingly and offered them for sale.
People chose to accept his price and pay him. These people must think it's worth it.

But other chips are less expensive, and they're not even leaded! There's no history!
But these were made by John.
My opinion here: He is a genius at chip design. Most casino's chip design is an afterthought at best, and it shows.
Tiger chips are bright, beautiful, and well though out in regards to one chip complementing the others and spot progression.
So, again ... this plays right into the monopoly. As no one else has complete sets that look this good.
It's why I originally bought some. Like a moth to a flame, I was drawn in.
You can't even get chips that look this good even if you hired John to design you a completely custom CPC set. CPC just doesn't have enough colors or spot patterns.
As far as poker history goes, I know there are some of you who care. There are a lot more who don't and just want good chips for their home games.


Is CEO charging the max? Yes.
And I have to admit, waiting as long as he did, sitting on the second wave... and then releasing when he did was genius. You could say he played the market perfectly.

Are the Tigers sold in a way that respects the "spirit of the chipping community?" No.
And I think this is where most people have a problem.

Story time: I've been around for a couple years and bought a lot of chips. I am nowhere near "old school" but when I first showed up, I had a lot of questions, and I got a lot of honest answers and help. I felt very welcomed.
We've all been there where we need x more to complete a barrel or fill a rack. I've been willing to pay more than necessary to complete the amount I need. But I've had others from the chipping community PM me and offer those chips at or below market value. Ive even been given some chips for free when it was just one or two more that I needed.
That is the "spirit of the chipping community." With how high these are priced, I don't imagine that tigers will ever get the opportunity to be passed around to those who need it. Their high prices almost guarantee that people will sit on them, or only let them go if they can get their money back.

Do they have a place in the "chipping community?"
They are here, they are not going away. And by the nature of how they were introduced gives them a place in chip history, even if it's a bit infamous.

 

[The Chip Spa]

CEO didn't say what he paid, or how much was produced.

Is this dishonest? No.

Dishonest, Agree NO. Disreputable, Maybe. In true chipper spirit? DEFINATELY NOT. (My biggest problem)

John is great and I consider him a forum friend! His designs are great. Did he have input to price or as an investor? Probably not. I fault him for nothing!

Is CEO charging the max? Yes.
And I have to admit, waiting as long as he did, sitting on the second wave... and then releasing when he did was genius. You could say he played the market perfectly.

If money is the only consideration, he played them like a golden fiddle. As far as the risk of investment there was ZERO. The thing was a fleecing and solely for the money.

Do they have a place in the "chipping community?"
They are here, they are not going away. And by the nature of how they were introduced gives them a place in chip history, even if it's a bit infamous.

If being dishonest to Angel Playing Card company to get chips made is history, well, its not history as he wasn't the first nor the last I'm sure. But if he'll be dishonest to them...... well...... I think we know what that means. And why I would NEVER transact with him. Ill say it ad nauseum Personally I don't care what you make on a deal...... Just be honest and have the BALLS to say it! It was for the money not for the "Community". And it makes me sick to hear any praise to KK405... To me @JeepologyOffroad gets 100% credit for his designs. Ken gets shit except for laughing all the way to the bank. Good on him I'm sure he sleeps well.

Where was old money bags when we were all ponying up when Poppin ripped us off?? "Community"! Where was 'ol KK405 when @TRQueen's friend was mangled in a wreck? "Community"! (PS, I agreed with that fundraising) and know Mel helped her friend too!

There's the "Community"! and there's the community. There's a few locusts in the community at large. Always is.

 

[HebbNH]

I’m curious: If one were, hypothetically, able to execute an NAGB, how exactly would one go about the entire process following a doctrine of “true chipper spirit” and putting the community first? Asking for a friend.

 

[The Chip Spa]

I’m curious: If one were, hypothetically, able to execute an NAGB, how exactly would one go about the entire process following a doctrine of “true chipper spirit” and putting the community first? Asking for a

Hello community. I am ordering from Angel. THC clay chips.
Here’s my design.
The cost of the chips is $2.00.
I’ll be selling them for $9.00 The mark up is for my effort and trouble.

Contact me with your order.

Thank you.

If you can order 100,000 + chips why not 200,000. Or 300,000.

 

[DuckPlug]

I’m curious: If one were, hypothetically, able to execute an NAGB, how exactly would one go about the entire process following a doctrine of “true chipper spirit” and putting the community first? Asking for a friend.

Impossible to do because you’ll never get an entire community on the same page.
I was invited once to be a part of an NAGB that ultimately didn’t go through. Based on that experience, I decided that I never wanted to be a part of or own any NAGB chips ever.
That’s just me though.

 

[The Chip Spa]

Impossible to do because you’ll never get an entire community on the same page.
I was invited once to be a part of an NAGB that ultimately didn’t go through. Based on that experience, I decided that I never wanted to be a part of or own any NAGB chips ever.
That’s just me though.

Hello community. I am ordering from Angel. THC clay chips.

Here’s my design.

The cost of the chips is $2.00.
I’ll be selling them for $9.00 The mark up is for my effort and trouble.

Contact me with your order.

Thank you.

If you can order 100,000 + chips why not 200,000. Or 300,000.

 

[HebbNH]

Hello community. I am ordering from Angel. THC clay chips.
Here’s my design.
The cost of the chips is $2.00.
I’ll be selling them for $9.00 The mark up is for my effort and trouble.

Contact me with your order.

Thank you.

If you can order 100,000 + chips why not 200,000. Or 300,000.

Fair enough! I think the only issue is the assumption on order quantities. I’d imagine you’re going to have to commit to a quantity, and ideally take delivery, before unveiling anything to the community. Taking orders up front like a normal GB, or sharing anything, really, before having product in hand, is asking for your (potential) order to get flagged and cancelled.

 

[The Chip Spa]

CEO didn't say what he paid, or how much was produced.

Is this dishonest? No.

Does he rip people off?
People know what chips cost. CEO knows that he has a unique product not available anywhere else. A monopoly. He took advantage of the monopoly. He priced them accordingly and offered them for sale.
People chose to accept his price and pay him. These people must think it's worth it.

But other chips are less expensive, and they're not even leaded! There's no history!
But these were made by John.
My opinion here: He is a genius at chip design. Most casino's chip design is an afterthought at best, and it shows.
Tiger chips are bright, beautiful, and well though out in regards to one chip complementing the others and spot progression.
So, again ... this plays right into the monopoly. As no one else has complete sets that look this good.
It's why I originally bought some. Like a moth to a flame, I was drawn in.
You can't even get chips that look this good even if you hired John to design you a completely custom CPC set. CPC just doesn't have enough colors or spot patterns.
As far as poker history goes, I know there are some of you who care. There are a lot more who don't and just want good chips for their home games.


Is CEO charging the max? Yes.
And I have to admit, waiting as long as he did, sitting on the second wave... and then releasing when he did was genius. You could say he played the market perfectly.

Are the Tigers sold in a way that respects the "spirit of the chipping community?" No.
And I think this is where most people have a problem.

Story time: I've been around for a couple years and bought a lot of chips. I am nowhere near "old school" but when I first showed up, I had a lot of questions, and I got a lot of honest answers and help. I felt very welcomed.
We've all been there where we need x more to complete a barrel or fill a rack. I've been willing to pay more than necessary to complete the amount I need. But I've had others from the chipping community PM me and offer those chips at or below market value. Ive even been given some chips for free when it was just one or two more that I needed.
That is the "spirit of the chipping community." With how high these are priced, I don't imagine that tigers will ever get the opportunity to be passed around to those who need it. Their high prices almost guarantee that people will sit on them, or only let them go if they can get their money back.

Do they have a place in the "chipping community?"
They are here, they are not going away. And by the nature of how they were introduced gives them a place in chip history, even if it's a bit infamous.

I read a post from you regarding what average orders are at Angel (Formerly GPI) production times, costs etc. This is a topic of interest to many in the hobby, as well as other things casino related like the cards they produce, tables, felts etc. Stay tuned!

Exciting and interesting interviews are on the books and some in the can! Stay tuned !

Interviewing, filming, that's the easy part! We're in the pre and current production stages! Our first segment this fall will interest many in our hobby!!! The slow and grind part is setting up interviews with folks from executives in the...

www.pokerchipper.com

 

[The Chip Spa]

I'm thinking the NAGB'ers may not like the post interview results but, well, that's life!